I very much appreciate this board and a couple of thoughts...

DisobeyTyranny

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If I were posting just on X, face crook, tic tok, anything I have to say would carry pretty much zero weight due to being out in a ocean of many... Maybe it matters not but I sense being in an slightly more important orbit/sphere of influencers here might mean more and carry a bit more weight... so yes I'm on X, one more board like this and here because I love Canadians and the province I live in Alberta especially. I believe planting the right seeds is all important, in the big picture. At minimum my aspiration would be at least I didn't march into the gas chamber, like many stooges did during WWII or during Stalins reign of horror, just hoping - maybe my not making a fuss will pay off while everyone around me doing the same fucking died! We can debate the numbers but full on holocaust deniers can just kiss my ass!

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... It has been argued the world currently is in the midst of WWIII... how it is being fought compared to WWII is very different... I think that is likely right.

In WWII the people of Italy, Japan, Malta might well focus on their stuff and at certain points it was also big globally but looking back, while important there were ultimately two big forces that either won or lost... Canada rightly took a bow for its role assisting the Allies! I remain proud of it, knowing full well some history is how the victors write it... history will always be like that and always rightly debated.

Cdn's like any other participant will focus on their stuff as did say Malta... there is no fault in that. Occasionally though one has to say to such participants zoom out or you are missing the bigger, more important picture! Some are too narrow focused and can't.

Imagine it all as a big weight scale but the real weights are opaque and therefore just hard to objectively define for the record books... Player Z tilted the scale for the win cause they contributed 150 pounds and player Y lost cause they only had 100 pounds... Now player Z only had 150 pounds cause they had Malta weighing in for a brief period with 5 pounds and Canada weighing in with 10 pounds and so forth. When we are really a team who made up the 150 pounds ideally doesn't matter... In WWII and in WWIII all that fucking matters is we won cause the alternative is epically bad for all. The Canadian 10 pounds mattered and at time greatly and I choose to remain taking great pride in that! Bite me if you disagree.

So what am I trying to get at? As is always the case with the real complexities of people power - if we do not have enough people weigh in and can't be counted on, then in the case of WWII I surmise the Allies would not have won - I shutter to think of where we would be today!

It is not at all lost on us on this board - of all the very bad shit the leadership of some in the USA has done since WWII - what that "leadership" - those who are responsible, has done is not to be forgotten or forgiven! I would appreciate justice! Especially of the Bushes, Clintons, Odumma's, Bidon's and their willing and knowing hoards in so called leadership! Not at all unlike some Cdn. leaders have committed egregious offences at times to native Americans, to Japanese Canadians in WWII, to covid vax stab refusers, trucker convoy participants, etc. , etc. Such is history albeit to some degree I despise the forgive and forget mantra because evil parties count on that, to offend yet again and again. History has also shown in spades we must root them out! We must minimize or even if possible eliminate their ability to regroup and try again!

Again I do not minimize the rot and unforgivable corruption of the Lyndon B Johnsons, Bushes, Clintons, Odumma's, Bidon's - no I wish to my core to see it finally face real justice!

As a practical person, I so wish Canada had the weight now to go it on our own and withstand the global evil cabal that has gained a scary weight not seen since WWII! But sorry I do not see us as anything but a feather weight against another global evil cabal that has sadly re-attained a super heavy weight status not unlike what came all too close to winning WWII.

The USA for all its many flaws and sins including those perceived of President Trump (some of which I'll agree with) remains all that is left standing (IMHO) with the most incredible Constitution ever written, a still operating Republic (albeit severely weakened), a military able to ably fight the global chyna cabal, Russia (who I perceive mostly want to once again join the Allies) and what have you.
 
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Hopefully the analogy gravitates with most...

Say we need a 150 pounds to win and Canada's 10 pounds matters greatly because otherwise the globalist cabal chyna gets our 10 pounds and becomes able to tip the scales to marching Canadians to the gas chambers (think they wouldn't?)

How stupid would we be not to have rejoined the allies?!

If that is ultimately the choice in the here and now (and I for one am certain it is) how stupid are we to assume/hope/guess that we can be "sovereign" as a feather weight in the super heavy weight battle of WWIII and win? Especially when during the plandemic till now we have clearly seen the global evil cabal opened the flood gates of illegal mmmmigrants, taking our freedoms (our body our choice), our bank accounts, the central banks of the world, our freedom of speech, stolen many municipal, provincial and federal elections, freedom of the press, a functioning judiciary, a national police force, stacked the senate, etc. etc. Without what President Trump is offering (not perfect by any means)... how the fuck do we chart a realistic course to win against the weight of the current evil cabal?

If you honestly can state "I think the formerly free great Canada is the 160 gorilla in this fight and we will surely win", I am at a lose for words! I can't weigh in with you, because if that is all we have I would realistically surmise we are two feet in the gas chamber with doors locked and I can hear the hissing of the gas!

Most here since 2020 hoped/prayed/rationalized/pretended there was no chance we would be facing what the rational folks can clearly see now, we indeed face. Pretending aside now folks. How do YOU weigh in!! Every gram and ounce counts and a gram short might be fatal for you, your kids and generations!
 
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I admire your faith in Trump, but don't share it.
 
Other than presidents that have been assassinated, I'm not sure a president in living memory has had a worst month then Trump's April. He faceplanted a dozen times minimum.
 
But there is no legal way to remove him from office short of impeachment, and he has the Republican under such tight control that I don't see that happening so his popularity rating is pretty much irrelevant, what are the people going to do? Nothing, Trump is King now, and everyone has to deal with it.
 
Ok, you lost me at the random tangent about the Holocaust in the first paragraph. Are you Jewish? That's usually a dead giveaway, randomly insert Holocaust reference into anything and everything for no reason whatsoever. It's like a land acknowledgement for Jews, totally unnecessary. I'm not judging, I don't care even if you are jewish.

What a weird segway from I love Alberta to Gas Chambers. Fuck Holocaust deniers. You went from 0-100 in 5 sentences.

I feel like you jumped the shark here.

I just couldn't get past it. It's late, maybe I'll try again tomorrow.
 
Yeah, it was a bit on the nose, eh?

It's like how on Facebook (don't normally use it, but have had social/friend reasons to go there a few times recently) there is all of a sudden all these posts, all from different groups, with a photo of a person and a little blurb about how they died in the holocaust. Silence that group, there's another group posting in the exact same way, like a bot/Actual Indian.

Like, ok... can we do a roll call of the soldiers that died saving the jews maybe sometime?

Makes you think "better keep an eye on that one..."
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So what am I trying to get at? As is always the case with the real complexities of people power - if we do not have enough people weigh in and can't be counted on, then in the case of WWII I surmise the Allies would not have won - I shutter to think of where we would be today!

Well Eastern Europe wouldn't have had to endure a half century of communism. China might not have have gone communist either.

It's nice that you have warm fuzzy feelings about the 'good guys' winning WW2, but that's because you weren't on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain.

If you want to criticize the Third Reich for their atrocities, I am totally onboard with that.... BUT the communists did much more to many more people for a much longer period of time, yet college campuses are totally cool with hammer and sickle flags everywhere.

In fact, you should wear a shirt that says 'I love Stalin' and I doubt anyone would care. You would think he would be as derided as his counterpart in Deutschland.....but he's not.

Huh. Can you explain why that is? @DisobeyTyranny
 
Basically the Nazis, though undoubtedly assholes, were at least manageable assholes... whereas the Communist victory in WWII that we in the West enabled made possible not only the postwar oppression of eastern Europe but also the normalization of left-wing tyranny currently eating away at the foundations of Western civilization
 
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to me the offense is more philosophical in nature

If one is going to condemn one group for their actions, then the same standard must be applied to other groups who commit similar actions.

However today we openly trade with (and are being colonized by) the PRC, and we have no problem with it - because we are told there isn't a problem with it.

Of course, the conclusion to be drawn here is that governments are not moral actors or sources of altruism. They are just collections of self-interested elites looking to do what is most pragmatic for themselves.

We are a domesticated class that has had sovereignty bred out of us due to decades of easy living (and yes it IS easy compared to almost any time in human history)

As such, we are too fat, bloated and lazy to even THINK our own thoughts. - they must be fed to us just like the slop we eat.
 
@Hirudinea It was already a serious problem.

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My fuzzy memory of reading history books seems to point me toward a general fear and anxiety of communist takeover in England during the first few decades of the 20th century.

I think I read that the King denied asylum to the Russian Tsar, his blood cousin, possibly out of fear of reprisal by the communists in England.

Maybe I am mistaken though, just too lazy to confirm.
 
@Hirudinea: Victory in war confers a veneer of legitimacy on anyone (just look at the Soviets), so if Nazi Germany had won WWII and consolidated its domination of Europe its ideology would have become associated with "winning" and gained even greater influence throughout the world -- it's also likely that the mass murder of its opponents would have exhausted itself soon enough, and it would have settled down into a more advanced version of the USSR. Which is not to say it would have been a pleasant place for non-Germans (or at least non-Nordics) to live in, but the reform of any police state is an easier problem to solve than rooting out a cancerous ideology that has taken root all over the world and is jeopardizing the very basis of civilization itself
 
@brutana_dilewski

I've heard about the Czar story as well. I also seem to recall, watching a documentary about the Stratford Shakespear Festival that before they set up the Festival the town was rather leftist, the town council in the 30's (according to the guy being interviewed) would sing the Internationale at the start of every meeting.
 
@ChevChelios

I think Communism gained the veneer of legitimacy because they were on the winning side with us so they had to be good (we wouldn't ally with the baddies would we?), as we were against the Nazis they always would have been sees as baddies. If the Nazis had won in Europe I think an new cold war would have started, the west would have had "Brown Scares" (and I don't mean the "I had Taco Bell for Lunch" kind of brown scares), socialism would be more popular and we would have to distinguish ourselves from the Nazis by going "left" to their "right". Would have been an interesting space race though.
 
If I were posting just on X, face crook, tic tok, anything I have to say would carry pretty much zero weight due to being out in a ocean of many... Maybe it matters not but I sense being in an slightly more important orbit/sphere of influencers here might mean more and carry a bit more weight... so yes I'm on X, one more board like this and here because I love Canadians and the province I live in Alberta especially. I believe planting the right seeds is all important, in the big picture. At minimum my aspiration would be at least I didn't march into the gas chamber, like many stooges did during WWII or during Stalins reign of horror, just hoping - maybe my not making a fuss will pay off while everyone around me doing the same fucking died! We can debate the numbers but full on holocaust deniers can just kiss my ass!

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... It has been argued the world currently is in the midst of WWIII... how it is being fought compared to WWII is very different... I think that is likely right.

In WWII the people of Italy, Japan, Malta might well focus on their stuff and at certain points it was also big globally but looking back, while important there were ultimately two big forces that either won or lost... Canada rightly took a bow for its role assisting the Allies! I remain proud of it, knowing full well some history is how the victors write it... history will always be like that and always rightly debated.

Cdn's like any other participant will focus on their stuff as did say Malta... there is no fault in that. Occasionally though one has to say to such participants zoom out or you are missing the bigger, more important picture! Some are too narrow focused and can't.

Imagine it all as a big weight scale but the real weights are opaque and therefore just hard to objectively define for the record books... Player Z tilted the scale for the win cause they contributed 150 pounds and player Y lost cause they only had 100 pounds... Now player Z only had 150 pounds cause they had Malta weighing in for a brief period with 5 pounds and Canada weighing in with 10 pounds and so forth. When we are really a team who made up the 150 pounds ideally doesn't matter... In WWII and in WWIII all that fucking matters is we won cause the alternative is epically bad for all. The Canadian 10 pounds mattered and at time greatly and I choose to remain taking great pride in that! Bite me if you disagree.

So what am I trying to get at? As is always the case with the real complexities of people power - if we do not have enough people weigh in and can't be counted on, then in the case of WWII I surmise the Allies would not have won - I shutter to think of where we would be today!

It is not at all lost on us on this board - of all the very bad shit the leadership of some in the USA has done since WWII - what that "leadership" - those who are responsible, has done is not to be forgotten or forgiven! I would appreciate justice! Especially of the Bushes, Clintons, Odumma's, Bidon's and their willing and knowing hoards in so called leadership! Not at all unlike some Cdn. leaders have committed egregious offences at times to native Americans, to Japanese Canadians in WWII, to covid vax stab refusers, trucker convoy participants, etc. , etc. Such is history albeit to some degree I despise the forgive and forget mantra because evil parties count on that, to offend yet again and again. History has also shown in spades we must root them out! We must minimize or even if possible eliminate their ability to regroup and try again!

Again I do not minimize the rot and unforgivable corruption of the Lyndon B Johnsons, Bushes, Clintons, Odumma's, Bidon's - no I wish to my core to see it finally face real justice!

As a practical person, I so wish Canada had the weight now to go it on our own and withstand the global evil cabal that has gained a scary weight not seen since WWII! But sorry I do not see us as anything but a feather weight against another global evil cabal that has sadly re-attained a super heavy weight status not unlike what came all too close to winning WWII.

The USA for all its many flaws and sins including those perceived of President Trump (some of which I'll agree with) remains all that is left standing (IMHO) with the most incredible Constitution ever written, a still operating Republic (albeit severely weakened), a military able to ably fight the global chyna cabal, Russia (who I perceive mostly want to once again join the Allies) and what have you.
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