Trade talks go boom

Okay reading the statement. Good Lord, that's a lot of attack's against Trump and the US personally. Carney has no idea what the fuck he's doing.

I feel really bad for the normal Canadians who just want to live their lives but fuck the elbow up faggots.

Also I'm confused Carney said he's going to do tariffs of his own even though Canada already does it to the US but cries when the US does it to them. The media has spent a year saying Trump's tariffs against Canada are attack against consumers in the US. Sorry. Are they going to say anything about carney now? I seriously doubt it.

Also you notice and everything they put out. They say new government as if they're trying to gaslight everybody it's insane
 
Also I'm confused Carney said he's going to do tariffs of his own even though Canada already does it to the US but cries when the US does it to them.
There was never a logical explanation to canadas behavior. Either:
1. Trade should be free, so Canadas tariffs on the US were bad and should be removed like the US wanted.
2. Tariffs are a legit way to protect your own economy, so the US tariffs an Canada are normal and the narrative of the US attacking Canada so we must elbow up is psychotic.
 
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So the Canadian media has spent a year calling Trump a fucking idiot for tariffs saying that's just a tax on the American people. So now Carney's going to do the same. So will the media say this is attack on Canadian citizens in their buying power? I think we all can guess the answer to that.

Man I need to pull the rest of my money out of Canada quick
 
Canada thinks that after all its hostility to the USA that the USA will let that slide. No. The USA is looking to punish Canada for this behavior. Canada backed out because the USA added the punishment in and our leaders were insulted so they backed out. Canada is not going to get out of its behavior toward the USA without consequence. Our politicians must bend the knee and apologize.
 
It is ironic to think Canada destroyed the special relationship entirely of their own accord. All of the tariffs have been punitive
 
I was once explaining to a Canadian leftist a strategy to improve Canada's sovereignty around the time Trump had brought up the 51st state and strengthening Canada was something the left were interested in. Halfway through my tirade, he interrupted me and said I need to stop looking at life and politics like a strategy game. He said that I lacked the human element. We can't implement my strategy because it was harm too many people even if it strengthened Canada.

It dawned on me then that these leftist Canadians don't understand how to adapt to competitiom that doesn't hold the same values and beliefs as them. Canada has no answer for Trump or non-White scammers/criminals because Canadians don't understand the strategy required to counter these sorts of people because this strategy is against their moral values. Leftists are like a country that is waging war and refuses to change their tactics to adapt to their enemy. In the end the war will be lost and Canadians suffer for it.

It's precisely the same thing as environmentalists who promote clean energy then complain about the cost of energy. In their mind non-clean energy is immoral so therefore they can't imploy that strategy but they're losing because the strategy they are implementing cannot lower prices.

Leftist Canadians refuse to adapt to the real world. They're using a broken strategy that doesn't work and then complain that their strategy isn't working.

I don't know what will ever wake them up.
 
Lutnick is a snake, I’d have to tell him to get fucked in this scenario as well. However we (Canada) can’t win this trade war; probably part of the NWO master plan anyway. The Canadian economy is toast through decades of gross mismanagement, we could have had it all. Sad!
 
Canada is run by petulant imbeciles. This whole debacle is mean girl feminism feels over reals writ large. Doug Ford is an even worse liability than Carney, that's why liberals are rallying around him they will probably hand him the Federal Liberal leadership in some coronation. I'm heading to the liquor store todayto stock up on Mountain Fresh Rainier and Maker's Mark just to spite the rest of Canada. In short, we are fucked.
 
If this is some kind of “art of the deal” blow up and come back later with different terms, it only works when you have the leverage. Canada doesn’t have shit to negotiate with the USA, other then oil, and using the oil as leverage will just fan the separatist fires.
 
Well being as a liberals and carney hates fucking oil, they'll never use it as leverage because that means they would let the oil flow and they don't want to do that.

Till someone has the balls to tell BC and the drunken Indians fuck off oil will enough flow as much as it could.
 
Rbst is banned in Canada AFAIK US dairy industry uses it.

So cant they just drop the tariffs but ban Rbst? Most US milk wouldn't qualify anyway.
 
Banned in canada because of risk to the cow, not the human.

RBST was found in 2% of milk in 2021

You could also just require the label to show if it had RBST in the cow rather than outright banning it.
 
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If Canadians don’t want American milk because it’s “dirty” or what ever, then they better be drinking organic milk already. Regular Canadian milk is still full of shit, just less of it. If anyone that screams about milk isn’t drinking organic, then they’re a fucking hypocrite.
 
Are you telling me that the one thing. Canadians flip out for when there is talks of US milk being sold in Canada is only used in 1% of all milk production in the USA?

lol canadians are retards.
 
You do have to give it to Smith. She already told him. Fuck off. No cutting off energy. As far as targeting liberal base, good. Fuck those assholes.

If I still lived in Alberta being as we have no political power federally, fuck the rest of the goddamn country. They're on our own.
 

Premier Danielle Smith says she is disappointed that Canada and the U.S. were unable to reach a new trade agreement before Friday's deadline, and though many Canadians want to go shot-for-shot with the U.S. in a trade war, she cautions against it.

"We're very disappointed," said Smith on Saturday during her Your Province. Your Premier. radio show.

On Friday, Prime Minister Mark Carney directed Canada's trade negotiators to end discussions with their U.S. counterparts shortly before the midnight deadline at which time the U.S. imposed 50% tariffs on select Canadian goods.

"The bonds between Canadians and Americans are long, and they remain strong," said Carney on Saturday. "A mutually beneficial trade agreement is possible, one that respects our sovereignty, one that builds on our complementary strengths, one that lowers costs for families on both sides of the border, one that creates good jobs for our workers."

"Canada has always worked towards these goals, even while America's attention and dedication to them have wavered; we've consistently proposed long-term partnerships, while America has often pursued short-term transactions. The gap between partnership and competitor, unfortunately, has remained too wide in recent days."

According to Carney, his government's goals during the negotiations included preserving tariff-free access to the U.S., ensuring trade stability, reducing tariffs on key sectors, protecting small and medium-sized businesses, and maintaining Canada's flexibility, independence, and sovereignty.

Carney claims the two sides were nearing an agreement, but last-minute additions by the U.S. that would have punished Canada's auto industry, limited Canada's ability to enter into and uphold other trade agreements, and imposed restrictions on French-language protections made the proposed deal unacceptable.

"Elements coming in, ramping up any of them individually, but collectively, put us in a position where what had been on a trajectory, absent those elements, for a fair deal, a good deal for Canadians, not perfect, but a good deal, a deal we would not accept," Carney said.
Carney said Canada is in a "trade war" with the U.S. and his government intends to match Trump's tariffs dollar-for-dollar that will be implemented starting Sept. 8, and more details will be announced in the coming days.

"We waited until the United States decided to actually implement these so-called 338 tariffs," Carney said. "That's fine. We've got the reserves. We've got the resilience. We've got the plan. We've got the focus. We will respond. We're going to focus on what we can control. We're going to build."

Many politicians across Canada have applauded the approach, but Smith is less willing to praise retaliation.

"I know emotionally it feels good to retaliate," Smith said. "I get that, but let's remember what happens when we retaliate."

If Canada were to match Trump's measures as is, 50% tariffs would be applied to products that impact industries across the country, such as farmers purchasing agricultural equipment, which would mean the cost of food could rise.

“We shouldn't be cheering if our farmers have to pay 50 percent more for all the equipment that they need to produce our food," Smith said. "That's not a success for us."

"It's not something we should be cheering on. It's something we should be lamenting. This is why I don't love tariff wars, because they hurt everybody. They hurt us producers, and they hurt our consumers."
Under the current tariff landscape, Smith said Alberta's economy is fortunate to be relatively sheltered, given that they impact only 3% of Alberta's economy; however, that could change if the energy sector entered the battle.

Energy, especially Alberta's oil and gas industry, is seen as a key bargaining chip in negotiations, as many Canadian leaders have called on Carney to impose export taxes on supplies flowing to the U.S.

Despite the pressure, Carney said he is not looking to use Canada's energy exports as a bargaining chip, and that "we have other options to protect our industry." However, on Saturday, he was keen enough to remind people of the reality of the U.S.’s reliance on Canadian energy.

"The U.S. narrow merchandise trade deficit only exists because the U.S. buys so much of its energy from Canada," said Carney. "Canada fuels American growth, supplying 99% of their natural gas imports, 85% of their electricity imports, 60% of their crude oil imports."

"I don't think they want us to stop sending any of that energy.

Smith is pushing for the two sides to resume negotiations, and though Carney was blunt and forceful when discussing Canada's retaliation on Saturday, Smith said the Sept. 8 implementation gives her a reason to hope that his words will not turn into actions.

"I think that's the prime minister saying, 'Come on, guys, let's see if we can figure this out over the next two weeks,'" Smith said. "And I'm really hopeful that some constructive conversations begin, because, boy, a tariff war is painful."
 
The headlines are saying the tariffs only affect 5% of our exports, but the list on the tariffs seems like it would hit a lot more than that??
 
It's technically correct but they are being technical because they're just saying the new tariffs imposed so they're taking new tariffs and subtracting old tariffs to arrive at the 5%. Most of what Canada exports is O&G which aren't getting tariffs.
 
So how long before PP comes out and tries to talks Like a tough guy saying Canada needs a fight back when frankly Canada can't. So he looks like a fucking retard for saying it?

It won't shock me if he comes out and says we have to support the Liberals to support Canada.
 
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