World's strongest man, 2023 & 2026, is fleeing Canada

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRlrr9aSBXQ

He tries to softball his rationale to avoid controversy so I'll just summarize

Work is more available

Properties are affordable. His child might actually be able to have a career

Healthcare system actually works

Education isn't full of woke far left bullshit

Rentals won't be constantly trashed by tenants who refuse to pay rent

Capital gains tax is much more reasonable
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World's strongest man (2023,2026) is fleeing Canada.
 
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Work is more available

This entirely depends on where you live and what you do for a living. Jobs are not that plentiful in the U.S. at this point. Exp I'm in IT US has just as many issues in IT with Indians as Canada does. You have no job protections in the U.S. like you do in Canada. Most places, honestly, are going to treat you more shitty than most places would in Canada because I will say Canada is a bit more relaxed overall when it comes to the working environment. Also, very few companies in the U.S. have ever heard of compensation when you get fired or laid off, unless you're very high up in the food chain.

Properties are affordable. His child might actually be able to have a career

Again, this just depends on where you're at. For example, in Calgary right now, I'm selling my 1,100 square foot I think it is anyway home with a fully finished basement for $525,000. And it's in the southeast, which downtown is only 12 miles from me. It takes an hour to drive there because of traffic, but again, I'm still in the city. So it depends where you're in Canada for this kind of price. Same with the U.S. I might be going to Virginia. Some of the properties there are insanely expensive.

Healthcare system actually works

Again, this is an apples-to-oranges example. Just because you have insurance in the U.S. doesn't mean you can actually go to all hospitals. Some insurance companies only cover visits at certain hospitals, so therefore you have to go to a hospital or doctor that's within your plan. And this is just a stupid example. My mother got sick. They told her if she went home and checked out, they would have to check her back in and insurance wouldn't cover her first stay this would have been like thousands of dollars. But if she stayed there multiple days until her surgery time, the insurance would cover the full thing. So she literally had to stay at the hospital for three days for absolutely nothing between when she first got checked in and until her surgery.


Also, yes, in the U.S., if you don't have insurance and you do get sick or hurt, you are going to go massively into debt for something basic like breaking an arm, where in Canada that won't happen. And if you've got a broken arm, you will get the care pretty quickly you need. So it's a toss-up. But if you need certain tests, well, you'll have them done very quickly in the U.S. or in Canada, you're gonna wait months. Also in the U.S., in some parts of the country, especially in the cities, yes, the wait times are just as bad as in Canada because all the freaking illegals in there waiting for free care and who have no insurance.

Education isn't full of woke far-left bullshit

Again, this entirely depends on where you live. It's the same way in Canada. Some schools are doing this crap, some aren't.

Rentals won't be constantly trashed by tenants who refuse to pay rent

Again, this depends who you rent to. In the U.S., if you rent to what they call Section 8, which is people on welfare in the U.S., you're guaranteed they're going to destroy your house, but you're also guaranteed to get money because the government's paying for it. This is where it really gets interesting because who the hell is going to fix up a nice house in a shitty neighborhood of Section 8 when the person's going to destroy it? So you end up with a fucking ghetto and slums.

Capital gains tax is much more reasonable

I'm not educated enough on this to say I have an opinion.


It's like I keep trying to tell my wife: if we're going to move, it's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows.


One single election cycle is all it will take for Democrats to rule the roost, and it'll have just as much censorship and just the same amount of bullshit Canada has, plus %20 even more. It also depends what state you live in. That is one good thing about the U.S. over Canada. The federal government has very little control over what the states do. So even if the federal government is a piece of shit, your individual state still can be nice. You also have 50 to pick from.


The thing is, though, in America, you can make an insane amount of money. So if you can save right and invest right, you'll be fine. But everything's not perfect. So anyone who thinks they're going to have a great life in the U.S. just because they're in the U.S. is full of shit. I find most people who say randomly, oh, I'm gonna go to America, it's gonna be better than Canada, are reacting more with emotion than logic.

I mean I may be moving there in a few months but I'm not going to lie to anyone and say you're going to have a better life just cause you went to the US at least right now depending on where canada goes.
 
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Well gee thanks ChatGPT. I’m sure you don’t have any biases baked in at all.
 
Actually no that's all me I used text to voice and I used AI to fix spelling and grammar but change nothing else.

I know it's hard to see one of my posts and I'm not just calling someone a faggot or retarded and using grammar and spelling correctly.
 
Actually no that's all me I used text to voice and I used AI to fix spelling and grammar but change nothing else.

I know it's hard to see one of my posts and I'm not just calling someone a faggot or retarded and using grammar and spelling correctly.
 
@TOPDAWG
your argument seems to be that you just need to move to a nicer part of Canada to escape all this, but where exactly? My district has provincial townhomes of no significance being listed at half a million. It is true that the States could tip into an even worse dictatorship than what Canada has, but they seem to be looking pretty good right now
 
That's like anything it just depends on where you live. Parts of Alberta if you live in the countryside you're barely ever going to see any Indians unless you go into town or go to McDonald's.

I just tried of seeing people in Canada so damn black pilled. For whatever reason I can't move to the US I'm not going to worry about it I'm still going to be in Canada but I'll still be happy as I can.

Remember the US put people in jail for j6 who didn't even go into the building and left them there for 2 years without trial even Canada didn't do that to the convoy people so nothing's perfect.
 
@TOPDAWG I want Canada to suffer precipitous social and economic collapse and burn to the ground before it ceases to exist as a country. To me, that's just rational thinking, since there is absolutely no chance of salvaging the long run downward spiral demographic replacement entails. In Canada: We can't speak in public. We cannot organize unmolested political organizations. We cannot network without being doxxed. We cannot just live without being attacked by far left social engineering problems. Our vote does not matter. We can't even speak on the internet about our concerns pretty soon. And on top of that we'll be hated minorities with no power or status with precipitous downward social mobility. And that's while the country is still majority white and not handed off to the race marxists. No, fuck this fucking place and I hope there isn't a Canada as we know it ten, twenty years from now. There is no fixing the path we've embarked on
 
Well then why are you moving there if its similar to Canada?
 
Because being an American it's a lot easier for me. I just don't like the idea of people getting false impressions if I just go to the US everything's going to be hunky-dory.

Now the US does have rights built into the Constitution that even Democrats have yet to overrule so unless they pack the supreme Court if they ever do if they get back in power. free speech gun rights have been upheld in the US even in Democrat cities.
 
I would gladly pay out of pocket to see a specialist at a private clinic/hospital. Those don't exist up here, they all require a referral from a GP and the wait times are literally years. Unless you are native, in which case you get moved to the front of the line.

Literally just saw a specialist for an issue yesterday and he told me "gee, we could have solved this easier if we had met four or five years ago, but now the damage has been done".

Don't get me started on all the dogshit GPs from Africa and Asia either. Unprofessional, unhelpful, literally communist doctors.

for all those people that work in healthcare and support this shit - from the bottom of my heart go fuck yourselves. You are as bad as the rest of them.
 
We have them in Calgary. I'm not sure where you're from but I really think if you are going to be stuck in Canada you should at least try to get to a Alberta if you can. Again not perfect as you're still going to see Indians all over the place in downtown Calgary if you live in this area but it's not near as bad as some areas. I looked into one about 2 years ago I think the first year is like $5,000 per person then it's $3,000 after that.



Yes. Calgary has a number of private-pay medical clinics and executive health clinics where you can pay out of pocket for faster access, longer appointments, preventive care, executive physicals, diagnostics, and wellness programs. However, Alberta law still requires medically necessary insured physician services to be handled within the public system, so private clinics generally focus on services not covered by Alberta Health or enhanced levels of care.

Some of the better-known options include:

INLIV — executive health assessments, preventive medicine, fitness, and wellness programs.

Harrison Healthcare (Beltline) — membership-based private healthcare with comprehensive health assessments and coordinated care.

Provital Health & Wellness Ltd — private clinic offering physician services, wellness programs, and preventive care.

Compass Health Services — private healthcare services led by nurse practitioners and specialty care programs.

JW Health — physician-led private family healthcare with membership-style programs.

TELUS Health Care Centre - Calgary — executive health exams and corporate health services.


Typical costs can range from a few hundred dollars for comprehensive assessments to several thousand dollars per year for concierge or membership-based care.

If you're looking for something specific—such as:

faster MRI or imaging,

a private family doctor,

executive physicals,

specialist consultations,

or surgery with reduced wait times,


I can narrow down which Calgary clinics are most suitable and what they typically charge.
 
@TOPDAWG

I appreciate your desire to help out, thank you. You hit the nail on the head here:

Alberta law still requires medically necessary insured physician services to be handled within the public system, so private clinics generally focus on services not covered by Alberta Health or enhanced levels of care.
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What this country desperately needs (and other countries, even the UK, have more of) is an independent private system, where specialists are allowed to set up private practices and take patients without the requirement of a government doctor referral.

As for living in Calgary, I can tell you that I was a Calgarian many years ago. I remember what it was like to live there and on a recent visit I was appalled at what it is now. I would never take the C-Train today, I can tell you that! You are right that other cities are worse (like Edmonton/Toronto/Vancouver) but I no longer have any desire to live in another large Canadian city given how things have changed.
 
‘World’s Strongest Man.’ A moniker that would have one imagine the absolute best of the noble warrior caste of old. Turns out he’s of the merchant class, like so many self-proclaimed ‘patriots’ and ‘conservatives.’ Homo Economicus. ‘I need muh comforts ‘n stuff.’

The guy could stay here and be a voice for others. He’s in a line of work that would unlikely cancel him for speaking his mind. Nope. ‘I can’t maintain my economic standard of living, so I’m going to go where things are easier.’ Imagine if the American and Canadian pioneers decided to all move back to Europe or somewhere more prosperous because, as it turns out, it’s hard here.
 
I disagre a lot with this line of thinking, and I've had many in person conversations with friends that has given me more clarity.

The only homeland worth fighting for is the European homeland of your ancestors. Whether it was your grandparents or great-great-great grandparents, if you are in Canada and white, it's because you have European roots. Europe is where your ancestors evolved and became a distinctly different race of people compard to blacks, asian, arabs. Canada was a place that Europeans came to and made great. Unfortunately, weak liberal minded retards and traitors have ruined it.

You might say something like "if the US becomes shittier, are you going to run off to the next place?" The answer is emphatically yes. It's the same setup as Canada. A formerly amazing place that eventually may fall.

I have a side project of getting my family and I European citizenship to a country of origin in case it becomes beneficial to leave the continent. Realistically it won't happen because sadly we are very far removed from family in Europe and we barely speak the language of our countries of origin. I'm also well aware of all the problems in Europe. However, the simple fact remains that it doesn't hurt to have more options. If we did need to make a stand, in Europe is where it would be or not at all.

My grandparents that moved to Canada are all dead now. I've told my parents that I think they made a mistake moving from their homeland. They did so in the 50s for economic opportunities. Not to be too harsh with them because Canada was 98% white at the time, and it's not like they could have forseen the decline. I'm not really criticizing them as much as explaining why their decision has forced their descendants to behave nomaditcally. It's just the reality of the situation.

I think they should have stayed in Europe; that is the place we really are from. Canada is like a vacation cottage. One we could have kept living in full time if it wasn't for a retard cousin who invited a bunch of Indians for a weekend who then never left and trashed the place.
 
@FreeJames
My grandparents that moved to Canada are all dead now. I've told my parents that I think they made a mistake moving from their homeland.
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That's rather how I feel about it. Eastern Europe will survive the next century with their race intact and a happy civilizational consciousness. "Canada" will not. The OUN fought for freedom back in the 30's but I hardly think it is even worth fighting in this dogshit mongrel state like they did. It's time to return.
 
People need to stop thinking like individuals more along family units or group. ideally you move as a community not as atomized individuals. Moving at this point is pointless as all Nations are sinking some at different rates. Unless the place you move to allows for easier family/community building.
 
Let me put this in a way that makes it really simple.

If you make a good amount of money and have skills to get another job easily if need be, you are overall better off in the US. The negatives can basically all be solved quite easily with money. (I.e. living in a good neighborhood, paying for shit your insurance stupidly denies, etc) You also have more freedom and better weather to boot.

If you don't make good money and have skills that can get you a new job easily, Canada is an overall better option. Like Topdawg mentioned, severance pay is not really a thing in the US. If your wife has babies, she has guaranteed money(albeit it gets capped at a low level), time off and a job to return to after 1 or 1.5 years. That doesn't exist in the US. I've seen daycares with 8 week old babies there; it's disgusting that newborn babies are getting handed off from Moms to strangers. While shitty and maybe keeping you waiting, you aren't going into debt for medical costs.

For me, I fall into category 1, so the US works better for me. I would encourage men to get their skills and money situation sorted out so that you have options.

Unfortunately, my green card status is not guaranteed and there is a chance I may be forced back into Canada. I'm working really hard to not let that happen, but it's also out of my hands. The worst part would be having to live around and interact with brown people again. My wife is especially against moving back to Canada for this reason. Every time we fly into a Canadian airport to visit family, it's like going to the third world. It's just so disheartening to see what all the traitorous Prime Ministers from Pierre Trudeau onwards did to a once great country.
 
The USA is significantly better than Canada if you are a competent person willing to put your intelligence to work to get ahead. Incompetent people with IQs not so high are better off in Canada. Holding all else reasonably average. Canada can be better if you've got health issues, disabilities, etc...
 
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