Anyone seen the price of RAM lately?

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Yes, I was just pricing out a desktop build as my current laptop is 5 years old.

Everything was pricing well until the DDR5... what should cost under $200 is now closer to $500 or sold out everywhere.

The claim is that the corporate buyers (for AI) are buying up all the stock, and I saw a post the other day suggesting some companies are even getting out of the consumer sales and just stick to corporate sales (Corsair was mentioned), but no idea if that is true or fake news.
 
It's not fake news. There are more or less only three companies that produce flash storage (including RAM). Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron. Micron just announced that they will no longer make products for regular consumers and just sell to corporate customers so that they can build their AI data centres.
 
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Yep. Built a PC in March 2020, the day I was put on permanent work from home. So beat the price increases then.

Gave that computer (ryzen 5 3600x, 16GB DDR4, 5700XT) to my daughter a couple of years ago.

Built a new one (ryzen 7 7800x3d, 32GB DDR5, 6800xt) for some very rare gaming. Don't care about raytracing and just play at 1440p, so the 16GB of VRAM has been nice.

I can't imagine building a PC now with RAM, soon SSD as well as graphic card prices. Going to price a lot of people out for sure.

I was telling a co-worker who wanted to buy a laptop during black Friday to buy ahead of time since RAM already went up. He looked and the laptop he was looking at was sold out, and the higher priced model was $400 more overnight.
 
It's not just computers. Expect your next iPhone, kitchen appliance, car, TV ... anything that remotely has a computer in it to be more expensive.
 
Was looking for a Black Friday deal and noticed SSDs are up a lot. My portable drive I got last year is double the price “on sale”
 
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Diamond wafer drives are coming, you will store 25XB for $50.
 
What ever happened to using your own meat cells to store data? Who dont want to store your favorite files in your own body? Apparently the human body can store all the data you can throw at it and if you work out and gain more muscle you can store even more of those tough to store files. Just dont lose an arm or a leg in a car accident because data retrieval is a nightmare and also very gross / messy
 
I was worried about shit like this during covid so I made it a point to buy and hoard as much memory as I could. Turns out it's not the solution I thought it was because although I haven't experienced it yet there is this thing called bit rot that can make your files unreadable.

From what I gather you should make a new back up every 5 years or so. Though I have one HDD sitting at 9 years old now that hasn't caused me any issues yet.
 
How long till they cut us off the power grid as the government needs to feed AI data centers with power.
 
Honestly the demand for power might be a good thing maybe we'll get some damn innovation in that area that we haven't gotten in the last 50 years.

Of course the faggot cdn government is going to say it's about green energy.
 
The issue is now that Ram's up in price fucking morons think all computer parts should be more expensive. I'm looking for PC parts to upgrade my nephews computer. I'll pick him up a 2060 super GTX for gaming. Getting that for 150 off Facebook marketplace. He's only 13 so he doesn't need a 4080TI or anything insane like that. He's fine playing at 1080p. So a 2060 will run most modern games at medium to high settings he doesn't need 120 FPS.

The issue is what I built him last time is just a Intel 7th gen cpu that's going to be a bottleneck.


To replace the CPU and motherboard to go with it and you're looking at like 300 dollars right now which is fucking overpriced. I may look at AMD motherboard combo as I might be a bit cheaper than Intel.

Here is the current hardware.

 

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I just need about 2 to 4 times the amount of RAM i have and I'm good for a few more years.... and with minimal rgb. If i were in the market today i'd be looking at AMD and a linux distro.

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Yeah that's what I'm looking at if the motherboard and CPU is going to be the bottleneck I'll look at AMD processor a 7300 or around that generation I think would cover his needs fine.
 
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Yes Yes I do. THough i don't have much to store these days. Just hate having to make room for my ever growing steam library. Outside of RAM im after an SSD though i might just get a higher capacity hard drive for the same money and not think about storage for a long ass time. Always wanted to do a RAID project.
 
GPUs have been stupid expensive for years now but expect prices to increase further as they also contain memory chips.
 
They did go back down a little bit from the bullshit Bitcoin mining crap. However they never went down the percentage they should have.

Just like wood during covid that went up like 200% and the media is like oh now wood prices are down 20% after covid trying to make the government look good.
 
My rig is 10 years old, and it does everything I need it to do still. Surf the Information Superhighway to make fedposts and do racisms, play a few old (<2020) games, run Office 2013 (because fuck your subscription BS, Microsoft). 1080p is fine by me.

I changed the video card out a couple years ago when prices dropped with a ca. 2019 design, and replaced the fan in my power supply last year, and I'm golden! Would like to have expanded my SSD though, they don't last forever and this one's been run every day for 10 years. Sheeeeit...
 
ok here is what he is getting. Man AI really helped with this shit and comparing everything. I had to go with an older AMD and MB as shit if I want to spend money on DDR5 so I got the newest stuff that will work with DDR4 I really wanted a 5800XT but cost is just to high and don't think that is needed for him.

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️ Your Complete PC Build (Finalized)​


CPU $150​


AMD Ryzen 5 5600
✔ 6 cores / 12 threads
✔ Excellent for gaming
✔ Huge upgrade over your i5-7400



Motherboard $103.00​


ASUS Prime B550-PLUS AC-HES
✔ AM4 + DDR4
✔ PCIe 4.0 x16 for GPU
✔ Dual M.2 slots (one Gen4)
✔ Wi-Fi 5 + Bluetooth 5.0
✔ Rear USB-C + front USB-C header
✔ Plenty of SATA ports (6 total)



GPU $150.00​


NVIDIA RTX 2060 Super
✔ Great 1080p Ultra / 1440p High
✔ Big upgrade compared to RX 570
✔ Perfect match for the Ryzen 5 5600



RAM Reuse thanks god as it's fucking more then 3 times the price now. ​


32GB (2×16GB) DDR4



Storage reuse 500GB Samsung SSD​





Power Supply $120.00 did not plan to buy but current PSU can't handle the load. ​


MSI MAG A750GL PCIe5 — 750W 80+ Gold
✔ Excellent PSU
✔ Fully modular
✔ Plenty of power for 2060 Super
✔ 10-year warranty
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Case Reuse​


NZXT H6 Flow
✔ Great airflow
✔ Perfect cable management
✔ Fits ATX motherboard
✔ Tons of room for GPU + cooler



Cooling CPU comes with one but it's stock so may upgrade that should be around $50. ​


Ryzen stock cooler OR aftermarket (optional)
If you want quieter temps:


  • Cooler Master Hyper 212
  • Vetroo V5
  • DeepCool AK400

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1080p Ultra:​


90–140+ FPS in most games


1440p High:​


60–100+ FPS depending on title


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Much smoother physics performance
(Your current CPU struggles badly here — the 5600 fixes that.)



Final Build Summary (Clean Version)​


  • Ryzen 5 5600
  • ASUS Prime B550-PLUS AC-HES
  • RTX 2060 Super
  • 32GB DDR4-3600
  • 1TB NVMe SSD
  • MSI MAG A750GL 750W Gold PSU
  • NZXT H6 Flow case
  • (Optional) Extra SSD/HDD storage

This is a perfect mid-range PC that punches way above its price.
Fast, cool, quiet, modern, and very upgrade-friendly.



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Eh what's the RAM speed? I fear it wouldn't be enough for a 5600. Looks like your pulling DDR4-2400 from the old rig?? You'd want a min of DDR4-3200 with 3600 being more idea! CPU is a great choice; a 5500 would also fit well and be moderately more affordable.. Your essentially after the same RAM that i'm in the market for.
 
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pretty sure it's this set. I also seem to remember paying like 100 for it god damn them prices. This is why I was not able to go any higher with the CPU next gen CPU would need DDR5 MB. 32GB of that right now is like near $500 or over now.

Trying to build an ok desktop that can be used for gaming now for under $500 is fucking BS.

His parents said 400 was budget I will pay for the PSU.

I don't mind as he can game and he is also learning programming already he already taken a unreal engine class and built his own game for it. Going to see if he wants to get into AI too.
 
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He could use 2B or 3B language models depending on his specific use case. He might be able to push it to 6B but it quite slow.
 
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@Nink I can upgrade the GPU at a later date. I'd just take it for my plex server. I looked at a 4060 TI but that was like around 350 used. Once I started to research thank you AI the CPU just had to be upgraded badly. I just planned to do the GPU and see how it turned out but said fork it and went ahead and did everything.

Far as AI he can learn to do agents with VS code along with chatgpt would be a good start.
 
There is so much free compute power you can abuse on VPS and CI providers it's not even funny, even $10 goes far, all from a crappy Core2 laptop from 2008. Plus the Wifi is free at McDonalds!

Dead serious now. No depreciating assets. Failing drives. No power bills. No Robellus. You don't need much.

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