Another rate cut, but definitely not a recession

Meanwhile a tin of coffee that cost 20 is now 30 plus and increasing rapidly

Food bank use is through the roof

At least it wont cost as much when you use your line of credit to eat
 
That's not a Canada only thing. Coffee has reached record prices all over the world, including the US. Price of coffee doubled on the world market since January 2025.
 
View previous replies…
@Squishybear
These were removed on September 1st. But that was just for coffee from the US. Tariffs on coffee beans from coffee growing countries like Brazil were never a thing in the first place.
 
@RightOfSask But do we import it ourselves or do we use middlemen? And if we do use middlemen, do we have any that aren’t US based? I guess that’s the real question.

Either way everyone always has some form of excuse for raising the prices. Half the time it’s got nothing to do with weather or bad crops and more to do with corruption and disappearing crops before there’s a chance to export them. I remember reading about cocoa butter since I use a fair bit for my skincare bs and how bad the crops have been… turns out in one country the crops are fine but they tend to disappear before they can be sent off for processing… now there’s a ermergerd cocoa butter shortage cos muh climate change and weather and labor and what not muh.
 
BOC rate_4.jpg

Back to the crisis rates imposed after 9/11 -- coming on 25 years of crisis.

I wonder if Carney, the ZIRP bankerman, WANTS 0% rates again. Maybe it's the only thing he knows.
 
rumor is negative interest rates might be coming like Europe has
 
View previous replies…
hmmm i am out of date on that fact. My TD Waterhouse Wealth Manager fren mentioned this many months ago or was it more then a year or go so? Fellow helped me lose a piss ton of money so maybe not the best fellow to listen to. If mangaing other peoples money is his bread and butter he is pretty shitty at it.
 
Fiat money requires people borrowing . Stuffing your cash in a savings account at a bank pays nothing, and never has, because it’s punishment for you not keeping the ball rolling. Play the game accordingly. Lending rates will continue to return to pre-2020.

Edit: US FED just cut too..you guys get it yet?
 
It's a tough pill to swallow that whatever money we make from working gets cut in half through various taxes. Then that what we keep instantly starts to be devalued the second it hits your bank account. I don't think it was always this bad.

Pretty much the lesson is don't let any money sit idle in a bank account. Get it moving to hopefully something productive right away. Even then, whatever asset you choose that seemingly goes up is just another thing for the government to tax you again on later.
 
I guess that's why people buy physical gold and silver. Not taxed after purchase, and generally retains value.
 

In its MPR, the Bank explicitly ties the coming consumption slowdown to a sharp drop in population growth: “Population growth is a key factor behind this expected slowdown, driven by government policies designed to reduce the inflow of newcomers. Population growth is assumed to slow to average 0.5% over 2026 and 2027.” That’s down from 3.3% just a year ago. So what was driving GDP all this time? People. Not productivity. Not innovation. Not exports. People.

And now that the government has finally acknowledged the political backlash of dumping half a million new residents a year into an overstretched housing market, the so-called “growth” is vanishing. It wasn’t real. It was demographic window dressing. Macklem admitted as much during the press conference when he said: “If you’ve got fewer new consumers in the economy, you’re going to get less consumption growth.” That’s about as close as a central banker gets to saying: we were faking it.

And yet despite all of this, the Bank still clings to its bureaucratic playbook. When asked whether Canada is heading into a recession, Macklem hedged: “Our outlook has growth resuming… but we expect that growth to be very modest… We could get two negative quarters. That’s not our forecast, but we can’t rule it out.” Translation: It’s already here, but we’re not going to admit it until StatsCan confirms it six months late.

Worse still, when reporters pressed him on what could lift the economy out of the ditch, he passed the buck. “Monetary policy can’t undo the damage caused by tariffs. It can’t target the hard-hit sectors. It can’t find new markets for companies. It can’t reconfigure supply chains.” So what can it do? “Mitigate spillovers,” Macklem says. That’s central banker code for “stand back and pray.”

So where’s the recovery supposed to come from? The Bank pins its hopes on a moderate rebound in exports, a bit of resilience in household consumption, and “ongoing government spending.” There it is. More public sector lifelines. More debt. More Ottawa Band-Aids.

And looming behind all of this is the elephant in the room: U.S. trade policy. The Bank explicitly warns that the situation could worsen depending on the outcome of next year’s U.S. election. The MPR highlights that tariffs are already cutting into Canadian income, raising business costs, and eliminating entire trade-dependent sectors. Governor Macklem put it plainly: “Unless something else changes, our incomes will be lower than they otherwise would have been.”
 
LOL productivity has no reason to exist in Canada where mass immigration depressing wages of those you want to be productive, where taxes rob folks of half their paycheque while inflation robs them of the other half. Where is the incentive exactly?
 
Just wait under homeowners start losing the title to their properties because activist judges have handed them over to the local Native band. That'll kill whatever little remaining incentive for working hard still exists in this country
 
Back
Top