A.I Chat GPT Destroys History

I only watched a couple of minutes of this and the guy's "argument" seems to be "I don't believe it, so it never happened". Why wouldn't there be a railroad station in a town of 3000 people, for example? There was one in my nearest small town of the same size for about a century. Why couldn't power tools have been developed a whole 100 years after the Industrial Revolution? Batteries had been invented thirty years earlier. Is it incredible solely because it took place in the nineteenth century? Despite the contemporary propaganda that the Victorians were stuffy and backwards, their era was one of huge progress -- they used to congratulate themselves on how advanced they were compared to their forefathers. The reason why he finds this stuff incredible is because our culture has declined so much that these things are no longer possible because of bureaucracy, diversity etc.

There's a huge problem with AI in that gullible people think it is sentient and here to liberate us from our delusions in some way, when in reality it's at best a glorified search engine and at worst subject to all kinds of inherent "hallucinations" (not to the mention regurgitating the political biases of its programmers). There's also the problem that all the lies we were taught in school have not only created legions of dumbed-down students but made some of them cynical enough to believe that everything is a fiction designed to manipulate us. This destroys the entire point of having a civilization, which is to accumulate knowledge in order to make things better for the average person and to take pride in our legitimate accomplishments
 
Its more about the speed and the resources. How were they able to get those complex heavy materials in to the middle of no where. Where is evidence to show how ppl got paid. Who built it which company? We cant in our time build something as quick as they did in their time and we have all the tools and technology.

Think about it. It isnt about could they. Its about how come nothing adds up. As if is all fabricated or manufactured info?

Later on you see that one man put together most of harvard in an impossible time line without having any knowledge about the trades to do the work and on impossible budgets. It is clear something is odd.
 
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"How were they able to get those complex heavy materials in to the middle of no where"

What, stone?! This is the same kind of nonsense as saying that Cologne Cathedral couldn't possibly have been built by medieval craftsmen because it's really, really big. Maybe we just live in an age of diminished expectations because our culture celebrates mediocrity and inactivity?
 
@ChevChelios speaking of cathedrals look at the craftmanship and detail. How did they do that with out modern tools i.e cloth marble sculpture of jesus

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I.e this

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Things we are told dont add up when scrutinized
 
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@d01tg0d0wn: "How did they do that with out modern tools"

Because they didn't spend their every waking moment looking at a glowing screen, but were trained since childhood to excel in a particular craft using the tools that had been available in the West since at least the time of ancient Athens

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Saying that these beautiful achievements are faked (by whom? When? And for what purpose?) is a rhetorical form of civilizational vandalism, one that ironically plays into the Marxist assault on Western history as being purely characterized by fraud and oppression
 
@ChevChelios focus on the time of the development and what is recorded in our records the records do appear fake yes. It still would take years to make the things we see in the past let alone haul that item into place either in the beginning of the development or after the fact. How could many intricate statues be done in a year with no tools let alone the whole building when they lacked technology to do it. if a development is recorded as 1 year that seems unlikely. Did it actually take much longer and why is the record so inaccurate. Who designed these things? who paid for them? How much was paid. Details are important. Ai doesnt seem to care or manufactures details

also what happened to these so called skills. why cant we do these things they did then without technology?? wouldnt that info be preserved or past on to someone

here is a good example of AI hiding truth or bending the facts for whatever reason then when scrutinized nothing holds up. why is this important because its pretty obvious that people are depending on AI for truth and people need to not rely on it. research is important. Ai is running cover for our past


View: https://youtu.be/1oDSFfPY5AY?t=977
 
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@ChevChelios and @d01tg0d0wn

I would recommend Euclid's Door: Building the Tools and Good Eye. These two books explains how break down complex geometric shapes into simple shapes from a woodworker's perspective

If interested above then read From Truths to Tools which they explain how you can use hand tools to make these complex shapes.

While the world is definitely full of lies. It does our ancestors a great disservice to handwave away their great works. It took the work of generations of making little shortcuts and specialize tools in order to make these.
 
@Thinker it isnt their works anyone is disputing it is the timetables recorded by Ai

how can a man with no knowledge as in the above video build 3 or 4 buildings in a year but not something else a few years later and needed say 7 or 8. Who is the gatekeeper of our information we consume and now people are relying even more on AI for information even historical information

it is clear that AI is up to shit

also consider budget and costs and who paid for the construction. it is my opinion but lots is not adding up
 
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@Thinker now do stone carvings. I can do this stuff in wood and so could my neighbor but now do it in stone from stone found on an island thousands of miles away because of the type needed back in the 1600s. Yes this really did happen back then and yes it took them only a few years to assemble stuff in to buildings that are still around to this day
 
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I am not arguing against that we are lied to. Just this video is bit irritating to watch. When he mentions documents of the workforce being moved around. He did not mention where he tried to search it from.

Books I was pointing out were about teaching these concepts underneath the medium of woodworking because that what the authors were good at. I am pretty sure you can translate it to other mediums with just different tools.

Considering Von Brunt was architect in his 50s when he designed these more complex building compare to his earlier works. It would not be that hard for him to pump out these designs considering he might have a team of junior architects underneath him.

For this specific Cheyenne Union Depot he was commissioned by one largest railway companies during the golden age of railways in the United States. How hard would it be to just ship in additional help and prebuilt materials consider they were right next to a railway?

Here is an example what one man can accomplish in his life-time:

I was also trying to find another example where work force of 20 thousand men made a mountain disappear by hand during one of the big gold rushes in South America.

When you throw enough men at a problem they will organize a solution to solve it.
 
I would assume majority of these buildings could easily be pre-built like old Sears catalog homes. That you then assemble on site. Usually majority of these towns were built around already established rail lines. How hard would it be to just ship in these pre-built materials then just use local labor in assembling it with a guy on-sight overseeing everything. Which could explain why it took only year when all the prep was already done for them.

What really makes these cases interesting is the World's fairs in the late 19th to early 20th century were built. I could never find much documents on them.
 
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Garbage in garbage out.

Datasets already have gatekeepers you just don't know it yet. These gatekeepers are political in nature.

Remember when Nancy Pelosi described the wrap up smear? It actually applies for Ai datasets that use legacy media outlets as monikers of truth. Taxpayer funded media dilutes the datasets and the hallucinations occur and are repeated back to the user with confidence enough to convince the unscrupulous that reality isn't real. Fraudulent journals also serve the same purpose.

Grok should have been names Winston for the protagonist in 1984 who worked to memory hole history.
 
They are only going to get more and more bold and ai is going to obscure reality with falsivity

Ppl need to create websites that are not controlled by outside forces with real factual information and to not trust the Ai which will as they say (derpstate types) replace the www as we know it

There is in my opinion a race to blur all facts and to insert the lefts truth ising ai
 
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Ai's will be as numerous as libraries use to be. Today they are few and concentrated. The singularity is far too risky given how corruption seeps into everything.
 
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