Pierres Morgan Gets Destroyed
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He's right that no one is in favor of genocide, we're just tired of getting brow beaten over an event we had no involvement in.
brutana_dilewski
Exercise is for women.
Not so sure about that.
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ChevChelios
Not racist, just don't like 'em. Simple as
A surprisingly large number of people are passively in favour of genocide in the sense that they wouldn't mind if a group they hated were to mysteriously vanish from the country or even from the planet overnight, but they aren't actively in favour of it in the sense that they would actually do anything to harm said group (because it would take effort and involve risk, plus most human beings are innately repulsed by the idea of murder when it isn't an abstraction)
Hirudinea
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@ChevChelios
I think this could be seen as common in people and frankly I even see it sometimes in myself, fleeting yes, but there. But I try to control these impulses. Humans are animals and we have animalistic thoughts and emotions, but we also have intellect, and we have to use that to control our more primitive impulses.
I think this could be seen as common in people and frankly I even see it sometimes in myself, fleeting yes, but there. But I try to control these impulses. Humans are animals and we have animalistic thoughts and emotions, but we also have intellect, and we have to use that to control our more primitive impulses.
brutana_dilewski
Exercise is for women.
@ChevChelios
Sorry for sounding like a contrarian, but I think even this is too charitable. The only thing stopping people from murdering each other is societal consequences. If they knew the state would not prosecute them, they would have no problem killing in cold blood. I first encountered this when I studied the French Revolution. The Jacobins were bloodthirsty monsters. I would imagine the same mindset reared its ugly head many times in the Soviet Union and in post 1949 China.
I bet you could fill an arena with rainbow haired 'love is love' types, tell them that they are about to witness gladiatorial-style combat where 'Trump supporters, -phobes and racists, and straight white men, etc' were to battle to the death, and they would cheer on the bloody carnage. It would make them horny.
For every wet bloody gash in the sand, there would be thousands of wet bloody gashes in the audience.
Sorry for sounding like a contrarian, but I think even this is too charitable. The only thing stopping people from murdering each other is societal consequences. If they knew the state would not prosecute them, they would have no problem killing in cold blood. I first encountered this when I studied the French Revolution. The Jacobins were bloodthirsty monsters. I would imagine the same mindset reared its ugly head many times in the Soviet Union and in post 1949 China.
I bet you could fill an arena with rainbow haired 'love is love' types, tell them that they are about to witness gladiatorial-style combat where 'Trump supporters, -phobes and racists, and straight white men, etc' were to battle to the death, and they would cheer on the bloody carnage. It would make them horny.
For every wet bloody gash in the sand, there would be thousands of wet bloody gashes in the audience.
Hirudinea
12" Member
ChevChelios
Not racist, just don't like 'em. Simple as
@brutana_dilewski: "The only thing stopping people from murdering each other is societal consequences"
It's actually so against our nature to kill other human beings that soldiers have to undergo extensive training in dehumanizing the enemy in order to be prepared for it. I would agree that a fair number of people could bring themselves to watch interestedly as psychopaths committed murder, but those psychos themselves are in the minority (and the Jacobins for example were eliminated in their turn relatively quickly because all the bloodletting was so socially destabilizing)
It's actually so against our nature to kill other human beings that soldiers have to undergo extensive training in dehumanizing the enemy in order to be prepared for it. I would agree that a fair number of people could bring themselves to watch interestedly as psychopaths committed murder, but those psychos themselves are in the minority (and the Jacobins for example were eliminated in their turn relatively quickly because all the bloodletting was so socially destabilizing)
brutana_dilewski
Exercise is for women.
@ChevChelios
^ this is one way to describe our public education system. All the rainbow haired people have a PhD in this.
^ this is one way to describe our public education system. All the rainbow haired people have a PhD in this.
Hirudinea
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@brutana_dilewski
That's exactly right, dehumanizing your "enemies" is the first step in killing them,
That's exactly right, dehumanizing your "enemies" is the first step in killing them,
Hirudinea
12" Member
@border_humper
But I am a Canadian psycho, so I'll gut you like a fish but I will apologize for it first.
But I am a Canadian psycho, so I'll gut you like a fish but I will apologize for it first.
brutana_dilewski
Exercise is for women.
@Hirudinea Honestly I think as long as people think that it's 'justified', murder is no big deal. Source: all of human history. Of course, I think murder is wrong, but thats just my modern sensibilities, it's not reflective of human nature.
Hirudinea
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@brutana_dilewski
Well if it's socially acceptable, or even encouraged, people can murder with much less psychological distress. Some people will always be troubled by murder, but others can do it, if it's approved by society. We all have a dark side, some are just a little darker than others.
Well if it's socially acceptable, or even encouraged, people can murder with much less psychological distress. Some people will always be troubled by murder, but others can do it, if it's approved by society. We all have a dark side, some are just a little darker than others.
ChevChelios
Not racist, just don't like 'em. Simple as
@brutana_dilewski: I've heard it said that humanity is divided into sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. The sheep obviously represent the large majority and their tendencies can be either good or bad depending on the general direction of the herd. The wolves are the ones we have to worry about (especially if we lack the courage to be sheepdogs)
Hirudinea
12" Member
@ChevChelios
Sounds like that could be reduced to predators and prey. The majority of people are sheep, they simply go along to get along, don't notice anything and as long as there is grass to eat they are happy. The sheepdogs and the wolves are the predators, they are a small minority but determine the fate of the sheep, the difference between them is that the sheepdog want to protect the sheep, the wolves want to eat them. And you're right there are many wolves and bloody few sheepdogs.
Sounds like that could be reduced to predators and prey. The majority of people are sheep, they simply go along to get along, don't notice anything and as long as there is grass to eat they are happy. The sheepdogs and the wolves are the predators, they are a small minority but determine the fate of the sheep, the difference between them is that the sheepdog want to protect the sheep, the wolves want to eat them. And you're right there are many wolves and bloody few sheepdogs.
ovarieasy
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Yeah, I never bombed any supply lines to work camps. Don't wag a finger at me. Wag a finger at typhus.
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ChevChelios
Not racist, just don't like 'em. Simple as
You could also wag a finger at the people who rounded up innocent civilians and put them into concentration camps in the first place. If I lock you in my basement and you subsequently die of hypothermia I'm hardly absolved of guilt for your death
Hirudinea
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ChevChelios
Not racist, just don't like 'em. Simple as
@Hirudinea: Well, my wife's cousin twice removed was in a residential school (and they made him do algebra), so I suppose that would be enough to get me a reduced sentence
@ChevChelios
Well you see the Americans worship the Jews and in trying to fit in with the popular kids Canada invented their own “Jews” called the indians. These Indians were holocausted in the residential schools.
Well you see the Americans worship the Jews and in trying to fit in with the popular kids Canada invented their own “Jews” called the indians. These Indians were holocausted in the residential schools.
@Chobes
Absolutely it was, we needed to have a color revolution in our sleepy little country and then “bam” we are in the rat race of countries in full decline. The US would never have our dollar pull ahead of theirs, and thats the real truth. Decoupling from the states means war with them especially when the deep state gets desperate.
Absolutely it was, we needed to have a color revolution in our sleepy little country and then “bam” we are in the rat race of countries in full decline. The US would never have our dollar pull ahead of theirs, and thats the real truth. Decoupling from the states means war with them especially when the deep state gets desperate.
@Hirudinea
This is true, a color revolution is required to subdue the economy as well as any green initiatives that come up. When the states figures their shit out then we will follow suit with a viable economy
This is true, a color revolution is required to subdue the economy as well as any green initiatives that come up. When the states figures their shit out then we will follow suit with a viable economy