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Finding a million more Conservative votes: 'It’s about figuring out a way to speak to women'

Ben Woodfinden, Pierre Poilievre's 31-year-old former comms director, says centre-right parties worldwide face the same gender divide.
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Ben Woodfinden, the 31-year-old former director of communications for Pierre Poilievre, understands the challenges faced by younger Canadians. Ten years of a Liberal-led, no-growth government, Ben laments, “means they live in a country that doesn’t work for them anymore.” They want change.

And there’s a flip side, he cynically suggests: Some Canadians are content with the status quo, because it benefits them. They bought houses decades ago that are worth 20 times what they paid for them. It’s in their interest, he argues, to encourage unsustainable levels of immigrants to support existing social programs and to constrain investment in the infrastructure needed to re-energize the Canadian economy.
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So I think it’s going to be about figuring out a way to speak to women … on issues that affect them,” Ben reflects, in ways that don’t alienate other people. But, he admits, it’s a challenge to thread that needle.
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There are many divides bubbling up in Canada’s political landscape — generational, regional, rural versus urban, education levels. And now gender. “The parties of the right are increasingly male-dominated,” Ben notes, and the “parties of the left are increasingly female-dominated.” It’s an unhealthy social divide, he adds, “a trend that’s happening independent of any specific leader or any specific party, and I think that’s part of why we didn’t do as well with younger female voters.”
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I note that based on comments, I would say 1/3 to 1/2 of freecanada.win members say they are women, and we trend pretty far right here. Is it abortion? Marxist critical theory brainwashing? Rich women just insulated from inflation and mass immigration? Aside from Canadian Conservative parties just being Liberal Lite, how to move more women’s thinking right?
 
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There are so many factors/issues that the only real solution I see is to somehow heal the relationship between men and women on a fundamental level. I mean, instead of trash talking the opposite gender, recognize that each sex has certain strengths and weaknesses that compliment each other. Ultimately, we can't survive without each other and despite certain biological differences, we all have the same primary purpose - to know, love and serve God, so as to be reunited with Him in the next life. Promoting traditional family values and celebrating motherhood/fatherhood will also go a long way in uniting people.

Many leftist women are such because they have come to despise the mere idea of being a wife/mother - it interrupts their career, allowing yourself (in the case of a SAHM) to be dependent on someone is risky and can lead to abuse, and being a SAHM is often looked down upon by society because the woman isn't "reaching her full potential". Yeah I understand there's a similar issue among men who don't like the idea of marriage - divorce is sometimes one sided, women can be golddiggers, "women are never gonna be loyal" etc. These are often the type of men who might fall into the MGTOW community. Notice, both sides are opposite extremes. Ultimately, it comes down to each person finding a healthy/balanced approach to the differences and roles of the sexes. What else can I say? There's no single issue that's gonna make western women become more conservative. Both sexes need to just let go of their pride and admit that they need eachother. And it starts with each individual treating others with respect in their daily life. That is all.

May I also suggest that people check out some of Fulton Sheen's talks - he is quite insightful.

View: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9cJRl8EYnLcnHVJ6q53oxlnE_Oo_fkBV
 
I note that based on comments, I would say 1/3 to 1/2 of freecanada.win members say they are women
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There's maybe 50 active members on this site at any given time. Lurkers don't count.
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The average thread gets at most 20 comments. Most of which are by the same 10 accounts. I can only think of 5 female accounts that actually post on here semi-regularly.

I get that there's plenty of site traffick that doesn't post. If you are claiming that 50% of the members on here are women. There's clearly an engagement problem.

This place is pretty finge, it's not easy to find. That means they found this place, took the time to make accounts, but don't engage with the community here. If they won't even engage on an anonymous online forum that they joined themselves. How the hell are you going to get them to engage in a real life political movement? Especially a Centrist/Right wing one?

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The only movements that seem to get women fired up are far left, Marxist, low IQ trash that are emotionally driven, Progressive/Edgy. Examples:

Abortion: They are coming for your right to terminate. Better kill that parasitic cluster of cells. My body my choice. Ohhh, that fires up the skanks. Somehow this one still works every single election cycle? Seriously... There are ZERO RESTRICTIONS on abortion in Canada.

Feminism: Marxism rebranded. Has absolutely nothing to do with equality. It's a mind virus. Smash the Patriarchy. Doesn't matter how many times the wage gap gets debunked.

Slut Walks: Women love to show up for these in disgusting attire. Claiming they live in a rape culture. In the West? Haha, What a joke.

I'm sorry, but women don't march to wholesome family values. They don't march for sensible restrictions on abortions. They don't march for parental rights to protect children. They don't march for a balanced budget and common sense. That's what the center/right is offering.

What does Conservatism have to offer the "I don't need no man""Girls Boss"?

Women don't become "Conservative" until they have something to protect, something worth holding onto. Until they've settled down, had children or hit their mid/late 30s. Coincidentally that's when "Girl Boss" realizes that it's "now or never". Women are having kids late now because they "don't need no man", until the clock runs out.

Women only listen to other women. You'd need strong Conservative women worth looking up to. Sadly they are in short supply.
 
I think it’s going to take generations to fix what’s been done once the world fails to accommodate ‘luxury beliefs’ and people do what they need to survive. ‘Danger is the mother of morality’ and all that. It took a little while, but my wife fully understands now how the sexes have been propagandized. I teach this stuff to my daughters so they grow up knowing what’s being done. E.g., “isn’t it strange how we say ‘stay-at-home’ instead of ‘away-from-home’ mom?” Thanks to my wife, my daughters will know the meaning of motherhood. They will know what a man is and how to find a good one. People like us are the ones reproducing. Over time this is self-correcting.
 
While I applaud your efforts/parenting, I don't agree that it corrects it's self.

Unfortunately this is just a good example of confirmation bias. You're assuming that you are the norm and that your teachings will span generations. Recent history and current trends suggest otherwise. We've been dragged down a steep left decline for quite sometime now.

Immorality and degeneracy is on the rise. Your wholesome/well raised children can be easily corrupted by a few years of public school/college/university. Worse yet, one indecent act from a predator can destroy a lifetime of moral values. We've all witnessed this in real time.

Western birth rates are low. Immigration and immigrant birth rates are high. We will continue to be replaced. In a few generations, our moral framework will cease to exist. The decay has already begun.

How do you stop decay once it's begun?

Whether it be mold, rust, rot, gangrene, etc. The treatment is the same. You have to cut out the infected/affected areas and start fresh. If you don't, it will continue to spread.
 
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Don’t mistake me as naive or white-pilled. I get how bad things are. However, with three kids, I try not to be overly doom-pilled.

My point is that degeneracy doesn’t reproduce (look at Ed Dutton’s work on this topic) and there’s a world of hurt coming down the road which will force a re-evaluation of morals out of necessity. Yes, we’ve lost the country and will be mostly replaced, but I choose to believe there will be geographical holdouts where some version of our ethnic lines will survive, however painfully.
 
@Sgt. Goosenip the country or people to come out on top of the coming shit storm will not be the group with the most nukes or drones and rifles. Many countries have the ability to go scorched earth right now.

Whatever group revokes women's rights and returns them to a life of breeding will be the winners. The ability to wipe out a people will pale in comparison to the group that can repopulate the fastest.
 
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I don't think you want to revoke women's rights and return them to a life of breeding, you want to create a society that honours motherhood and admires women in their role of carrying on the race. Most people love their mothers, right? Well let's expand that love as a society to all mothers.
 
@border_humper No I mean a life of breeding. keep in mind this is after some major war or black swan event. This isn't some way to fix our current problems or anything. I'm talking after the nukes go off or people decide to get cute with biological weapons.

When destroying people is as easy as it is now making more people is a weapon itself. The big winner will be the people that first discard feminism and multiply at all costs by any means.
 
Just take away their right to vote. Never should have done that to begin with.
 
Seems extreme imo. I think that if a person pays their share of taxes, or owns property and is a Canadian citizen, they should have a say about what happens in their country, regardless of gender.
 
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Fine by me. But first let's do an honest assessment of who, between the sexes, pays the most in taxes as opposed to who takes the most out of the treasury in terms of welfare state benefits, who owns the most property (that they actually earned and didn't effectively rob from some hardworking mug in a contrived divorce settlement), and who works the longest hours and sacrifices the most of their free time in order to keep society running.
 
Looking for 1 million new 'conservative' voters amongst the left is like looking for stripes on a leopard.

This seems to me to be an admission that the CPC will double down on moving farther left. The cats as the CPC will shed their stripes, not merely cover them, as they paint on spots which will never be spots.

How odd, the party seemingly representing men can't find a pair of stones among them and try in vain to appease women who hate them.

I guess 'conviction' is merely a legal term these days.
 
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Sorry can't help,

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as you can see my knowledge of women is limited.
 
I think you have to zoom out even further - what does the CPC have to offer men, or anyone for that matter? It's 95% the same globohomo agenda as the LPC, and they're going to double down with the same fucking loser leader who couldn't even win his own seat.

Women (at least in western Europe) seem to now be noooooticing that there seems to be an awful lot of "refugees" attacking and raping them to the point where they can't simply go about their day without being victimized or harassed. An actual right wing party would offer refuge and solutions (deportation, death penalty, actual self defense laws, castle law, etc.) to this madness (which would attract plenty of female voters) but the CPC? LOL!!! Shut up and stop being racist when your replacement decides they're having a sexual emergency.
 
women are fucking retarded . all it took was for someone to start a group called women against PP and they all jumped on board . if you listen to their grievances against PP they all say he was going to make abortion illegal . he never said that . he actually said the opposite but that never stopped them from believing it . i think one of the biggest reasons that PP was not popular with women is he looks like a chudjak . no woman loves a chudjak . they love gay dudes with pretty hair like justin .they also love an alpha chad but there is nothing even close in canadian politics


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I like to use magnets as an analogy for men and women. Both have a +/- side. Opposites attract, when they stand side by side +/-+/-, they are attracted to each other and travel in the same direction. They are almost inseparable. When either side is flipped +/- -/+ or -/+ +/- they are travelling in opposite directions and push each other away.

In order to work together they cannot be going in two different directions. Their negative poles always face one another. When one approaches, the other retreats. They constantly push the other side away. Rarely do their poles shift and meet in the middle. One side needs to be willing to compromise in order for them to come together.

In the past women were likely to compromise in order for them to work together.

Insert feminism. Women go their own way.

Now both sides refuse to compromise, then blame the other for their current predicament.

It doesn't matter which side makes the compromise, but one has to. Otherwise they can never come together.
 
Julius Evola has a similar take on masculine-feminine polar energies and laws of attraction. More masculine men allow women (traditionally more dependent) to be more feminine, which likewise draws out the masculine ‘protector,’ etc. Since the managerial state allowed women to be more dependent on the social bureaucracy, hence less reliant on any one man, they have become (on average) less feminine; a decline in the feminine polarity means a lessening of the masculine energy. Evola also believed such regressions explain rising rates of homosexuality, transsexualism, gender dysphoria, etc.
 
Greater issue is structural. Society thinks a man can be a better woman and woman can be better man. Where men playing dress up then invade women's spaces and women invading men's spaces. Both sexes involved in each others spaces where they have no business being in. There is where it creates a lot of tension with both sexes.
 
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Islam is so successful because it segregates the sexes.
 
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As for the mathematical breakthroughs and other parts of the "Islamic Renaissance" had to do with the way the islamic empire conquered vast territories that had more advanced civilizations, parts of the Eastern Roman Empire, all of the Persians Empire and parts of India. This muslim empire allowed the exchange of ideas and scholars that wouldn't have been able to interact before, which lead to an increase in knowledge but was not the knowledge of the muslims. Also you have to remember some Khalifs would set up schools and libraries to show how "civilized" they were, they were ignorant arabs but they had more money than God so they wanted to show off. You think Dubai is something new? Nope, the muzzies did the same thing over 1000 years ago, and Dubai will fall apart just like those old empires did.
 
It is more big city females than ones in rural/small towns.

The election map where what party won where with a few exceptions like Maritimes and Vancouver Island and Gulf Islands which are full of leftists for various reasons.

The big cities have been infected with the Marxist/ Commie woke virus. I really do not know how to combat that as been so entrenched for a while. They also get brainwashed young in public school. Public schools are a virus. Sadly the big 3 metro areas are where most of the votes are or close to it.

I would also say gun owning females are more what passes for a conservative party in Canada. Maybe take a girl shooting? Teach your wives/daughters/nieces/girl next door how to shoot. They may like it..
 
Move men's men's thinking more to the right and have actual men in positions of leadership then sit back and watch the ladies roll in. This ain't rocket science, women get to choose between one pansy ass faggot or another faggot ass pansy as far as political leaders in this country, if given the choice of an actual man it would be no contest.

Weak men are creating hard times.
 
There are no such thing as a conservative woman, all women are left wing by default.

If a woman ever claims she has "conservative values" what she means is that she is smart enough to realize conservative guys are generally more successful and have more money then left wing guys, so they claim to be "conservative" to attract more wealthy/successful men.

Most women do not think about much in terms of values or rights, other then they have the right to abortion, and they value abusing any and every man they come in contact with. Feminism has told them that women run the world and if any man has a problem with that the woman can call the cops and make a fake allegation and end the man's life/get him thrown in prison.

They have been artificially given power which is naturally attractive to them, but they did not earn it, so they will push their power too far and abuse it, as women do not have the any concept of self discipline or modest restraint, much less using their power for the greater good. They are extremely selfish and and lack foresight, so things like planning for the future of the greater community (a basic conservative value) does not register as important in their minds.

The supposed female attraction to conservativism is based on what conservativism can do for them (female selfishness) so it comes down to the money they can leech off conservative men, and the lack of stability and resources they can acquire from a left wing man.
 
Every woman is a feminist. They may not proclaim the label but I don't think you can find a single notable female saying to end suffrage and it was a mistake.

For what it's worth I figure a vote should be earned and nobody should simply have the right because they exist.

To get women to vote conservative requires wrapping it up in a veneer of self righteousness so they can all virtue signal about how it makes them a good person.

You see the sentiment on Reddit that the liberals are constant screw ups but at least attempt to help everybody.

Ignorant as all hell but it draws women to liberals like flies to shit.

Concoct a way to make a conservative vote a virtue signal and you will draw your hordes of female voters.
 
"There are no such thing as a conservative woman, all women are left wing by default."

This is only true in modern Western societies. In deeply conservative societies -- which describes most societies throughout history --the vast majority of women are supportive of the existing power structure to such an extent that they routinely enforce its values on other (usually younger) women. Today this is most evident in the Islamic world
 
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I don't actually view all women as left wing. I only view them that way when it comes to distribution of labor and resources. They become hyper capitalists when it comes time to choose a suitor for example.

So long as women can appear virtuous they will take that position. Note that I said appear that way and not actually being virtuous.

The way to increase the female vote is to increase the appearance of virtue in doing so. Doesn't matter how many people can be screwed over by a politician or a policy, should the sales pitch involve a chance to performatively signal being a good person the women will follow.

You can take any housing plan and if you frame any opposition to it as being bigotry or Scrooge McDuck levels of greed then many women will follow it.

Details don't matter nearly as much as shouting down old bigoted Scrooge.
 
@Hirudinea: Yeah, the consensus promoted by the dominant power structure in the West (government, corporations, educational institutions, NGOs etc.) is heavily pro-migration and pro-LGBT, so we see a lot of women (but especially the younger ones) adopting these positions as a kind of quasi-religious dogma and pushing back hard against anyone who dissents from them; after all, to oppose the majority is willingly put yourself outside the herd, and they find that kind of commitment to antisociability "icky" and weird. But the same was true of church ladies 100 years ago, who would have been horrified at mass migration and the alphabet-soup deviants.

Most people -- and naturally that includes most men -- don't have sincerely-held or well-thought-out points of view but are just trying to gain advantage and/or acceptance from others; religion or politics are just as tribal to them as team sports
 
The reason why the cons lost again is IMO they fell into the same trap they did in 2019 and 2021. Ever so slightly, they turned PP into O'Toole by the time of the election. If the PP that won the leadership race in 2022 had been the one in the campaign, the policy wonk kind of asshole with the distinctive glasses, he would have won. You might claim he looks like Chudjak, but it's unique. His new look, you wouldn't necessarily recognize him on the street.

They're still falling for the trap of listening to leftists on how the Conservative leader should be "oh if Andrew Scheer had just lost some weight and spoke better French..." Well that's what PP did and it still didn't work. "oh don't go on the Joe Rogan podcast, go on some literally who podcast instead because you don't want to look like Drumpf!!"

Like they're going to call you that anyway.

Tl;Dr just bee urself
 
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